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martvilis raionSi adgilobrivi Tu centraluri xelisufleba mosaxleobis terors ganagrZobs. saqme exeba uprecedento masStabis kanondarRvevas, roca xelisuflebam soflebis muxurCasa da vedidkarSi mcxovreb 625 komls maT sakuTrebaSi arsebuli miwis nakveTebi da saZovrebi ukanonod warTva da farulad gasxvisa. mosxleobis miwebis miTvisebis epicentrSi kvlav saqarTvelosTvis kargad cnobili italiuri kompania `ferero~ dgas, amjerad Svilobili kompania `agri jorjias~ saxiT. es kompania SeiZleba iTqvas, rom wlebis ganmavlobaSi samegreloSi `feodalur korporaciad~ Camoyalibda da mis zurgs ukan mdgomi qarTveli maRalCinosnebisTvis mosaxleobis xarjze xelis moTbobis erTerTi mniSvnelovani instrumenti gaxda.

martvilis soflebSi miwebis garSemo Seqmnil viTarebaze `Tavisufal presas~ esaubra sofel muxurCis mkvidri da erT erTi dazaralebuli pirovneba giorgi yurua.

_ra xdeba martvilis soflebSi miwebTan dakavSirebiT da ra problemebi eqmneba amis gamo mosaxleobas?

_upirveles yovlisa, sanam im problematikaze visaubrebdeT, romelic arsebobs martvilis raionSi, kerZod, soflebSi vedidkarsa da muxurCaSi, minda avRniSno rom es ar aris mxolod konkretuli problema Cveni soflis, Tumca yvelaferze saubari Sors wagviyvans.

mogexsenebaT saqarTvelo odiTganve iyo miwaTmoqmedi qveyana da Sesabamisad soflis meurneoba yovelTvis iyo prioritetuli dargi. magram dRes yvelaferi amis sawinaaRmdegod keTdeba, ragdan absoluturad gaugebari da miuRebelia TiToeuli qarTvelisTvis is politika romelsac xelisufleba zogdad sofelTan mimarTebaSi atarebs. Cveni soflis magaliTze Tu vityviT xelisuflebam 625 ojaxs sruliad ukanonod miwa CamoarTva da `gaasxvisa~. arada jer kidev 1995 wels prezidentis mier gaica brZanebuleba, ris safuZvelzec ama Tu im regionSi resursebis mixedviT unda yofiliyo mosaxleobisTvis mizomili sakarmidamod 12,500 kv.m. miwa. magram martvilSi adgilobrivi xelisuflebis mier moxda realurad miwebis gadamalva TavianTi piradi interesebidan gamomdinare da TiToeul komls miezoma 7,500 kv.m. miwis nakveTi. rogorc Semdeg gairkva miwis resursi gaaCnda am raions, gaaCnda am konkretul soflebs, ubralod sworad ar iqna azomili (amas adasturebs Tavad soflis rwmunebuli gulTaz canavac). amitom mosaxleobam amaze protesti gamoTqva da gadawyvita miwis farTobi erT heqtramde moemTavrebina.

sabolood adgilobrivma xelisuflebam Seadgina e.w. oqmi_ `oqmi #1~, romelic Cveni azriT aris yalbi, radgan Zneli dasajerebelia gamgeobas oqmi manmade saerTod ar hqonoda Sedgenili. aqedan gamomdinare wamoiWra es problema, romelmac pirvelad Tavi jer kidev 2008 wels iCina. minda aqve aRvniSno, rom dResac igive adamianebi muSaoban sakrebulosa Tu gamgeobaSi, aseve soflis rwmunebulad, romlebmac Tavis droze miwis nakveTebi mopares mosaxleobas, Tumca dRes gacilebiT uaress Cadian da samudamod arTmeven miwas, ufro metic, ukve ezoebSic Sedian.

problema Tavidan warmoSva iman, rom mosaxleobas miwis nakveTebze, romelic mizomili iqna TiToeul komlze, ar hqonda miReba Cabarebis aqtebi. swored amiT isargebla xelisuflebam da mosaxleobas gauyida rogorc sakomlo miwis nakvetebi, ise saZovrebi. am ukanasknelis ar arseboba soflis macxovrebelTaTvis aranaklebi problemaa vidre miwis nakveTis gareSe darCena, radgan mogexsenebaT saZovari soflisTvis aris umniSvnelovanesi, vinaidan meti sxva saSemosavlo wyaro ar arsebobs garda msxvilfexa saqonlisa.

problemis warmoSobisTanave mosaxleobam daayena sakiTxi: Tu iyo resursi imisa rom kanoniT dadgenil farglebSi 12,500 kv.m. hqonoda TiToeul komls, maSin ratom miezomaT maT TiTo heqtari? magram es yovelive tavis droze moxda imitom rom sakrebulos Tavjdomares da sxva Tanamdebobis pirebs miesakuTrebinaT 8-10 heqtari da hqonodaT miwis nakveTebi mflobelobaSi, rogorc meijareebs.

_vis mihyida es miwis nakveTebi xelisuflebam?

_2008 wels konkretuli miwis nakveTebi muxurCasa da vedidkarSi gasxvisda rogorc iurdiul pirebze, aseve Sps `agri jorjiaze~ (cnobisTvis, Sps `agri jorjia~ italiuri kompania `fereros~ Svilobili organizaciaa, z.j.). rodesac mosaxleobas ganumartes rom maTi miwis nakveTebi unda daregistrirdes da naxazebsa da Semdgom gasaformebel dokumentebSi konkretuli Tnxis gadaxda mosTxoves. mosaxleoba mimarTa sajaro reestrs da gaakeTa naxazi, magram  aRmoCnda rom es miwis nakveTebi gayiduli iyo kerZo pirze, roman ruruaze.

_daxmarebisa da reagirebisTvis adgilobrivi xelisuflebisTvis ar migimarTavT?

_CvenTvis ra Tqma unda mtkivneuli es Tema, amitomac vibvrZviT Cveni uflebebis da kuTvnili qonebis dasacavad. aqedan gamomdinare mivmarTeT adgilobriv TviTmmarTvelobis organoebs, raTa CarTuliyvnen am procesSi da gamosvali erToblivad mogveZebna da problema konstruqciulad mogvegvarebina. magram amaod.

_Tqveni problemiT gamgebeli mamuka danelia ar dainteresebula?

_Cven gamgebel danelias oficialuri gancxadebiT mivmarTeT, romelsac 477 adamiani awerda xels da moviTxoveT misgan Cveni problemisTvis yuradReba mieqcia da gulTan axlos mietana, radgan glexma Tu miwa ar moxna, produqcia ar awarmoa da ar mieca saSualeba Seinaxos msxvilfexa pirutyvi misgan sargeblis miRebis mizniT, maSin mis arsebobas sofelSi aranairi mniSvneloba ar aqvs. yvelasgan moulodnelad gamgeblisgan miviReT oficialuri pasuxi, rom `es sakiTxi mis kompetenciaSi ar Sedioda da miwa ara gamgeobam, aramed ekonomikis saministrom gaasxvisa~.

mgram Cven gvainteresebs Tu saidan moxvda ekonomikis saministroSi Cveni sakuTreba gasasxviseblad Tu ra Tqma unda Tavad gamgeobam ar miawoda es monacemebi?!

_magram mamuka danelia martvilis gamgebelia da swored im adamianebis mier aris arCeuli, romlebic am ukanonobis Sedegad dazaraldnen, nuTu aranair pasuxismgeblobas ar grZnobs maT winaSe?

_diax mamuka danelia da is gundi, romelic dRes xelisuflebaSia arCeulia am adamianebis mier da Sesabamisad igi valdebulia, rom mosaxleobis problemebis gadawyvetis gzebi gamoZebnos maTi interesebis sasargeblod. magram rogorc Cans mas xalxis problemebi saerTod ar ainteresebs.

_prokuraturisTvis an sasamarTlosTvis xo mar migimarTavT?

_rodesac adgilobriv doneze verafers gavxdiT gadavwyviteT migvemarTa sakanonmdeblo organosTvis. Seikriba ramdenime aTeuli adamiani, romlebic unda wasuliyvnen TbilsSi da gaekeTebinaT gancxadeba, raTa centraluri xelisuflebis yuradReba migvepyro am problemisadmi. pirveli rac gakeTes gamgebelma mamuka daneliam da sakrebulos Tavmjdomare zaal goroziam (soflis meurneobis ministris zaza gorozias Zma, z.j.)  iyo is rom daavales soflis xelmZRvanelebs policiis Tanmxleb pirebTan erTad gaefrTxilebinaT yvela samarSuto taqsis mZRoli, rom am adamianebis gadayvana TbilisSi ar momxdariyo. ufro metic, ara Tu samarSuto, aramed kerZo taqsebsac ar misces gadaadgilebis ufleba.

_gindaT TqvaT rom am adamianebs adgilobrivma xelisuflebam dedaqalaqSi Casvlis SesaZlebloba ar misca?

_miuxedavad am daprkolebebisa zogierTma maTganma moaxerxa TbilisSi Casvla da mimarTes fraqcia `erToba samarTlianobisTvis~ imdroindel xelmZRvanels giorgi cagareiSvilis... Catarda brifingi parlamentSi, ris Semdegac giorgi cagareiSvilis proteqciiT mTvari prokuroris murTaz zodelavas saxelze gaigzavna gancxadeba, sadac weria rom miwis nakveTebi ukanonod iqna gasxvisebuli, aseve aRwerilia is faqtic, rom zaal gorozia policiis Tanmxleb pirebTan erTad dadioda sofel-sofel da awiokebda mosaxleobas da maTgan moiTxovda maT sakuTrebaSi arsebul miwis nakveTebze eTqvaT uari. Cven moviTxoveT prokuraturisgan Seeswavla es sakiTxi da daedgina Tu vin iyvnen es adamianebi, rato axorcielebdnen zewolas mosaxleobaze da saerTodac vin misca Tavs imis ufleba kerZo sakuTrebaSi arsebuli miwis nakveTebi gaesxvisebina.

mTavari prokuraturisgan es gancxadeba gadmoigzvna samegrelo-zemo svaneTis samxareo prokuraturaSi, xolo Semdgom senakis prokuraturaSi. amis mere aranairi reagireba ar yofila, ar dakiTxula arcerTi adamiani, rodesac moviTxoveT Tu ratom ar xdeba reagireba isini ara Tu oficialurd, aramed sityvier pasuxsac ar iZlevian.

_rogor fiqrobT, realurad vin dgas `agri jorjias~ ukan... anu vin aris dainteresebuli am miwebis miTvisebiT?

_swored amis garkvevas viTxovT prokuraturisgan. magram Tu gadavxedavT arsebul fons da im arasasurvel realobas, rom glexs kuTvnil miwas uproblemod arTmeven da am dros soflis meurneobis ministr zaza gorozias gaaCnia martvilis raionSi 275 heqtari miwis farTobi... CemTvis absoluturad gaugebaria xelisuflebis aseTi midgoma. realurad isini spoben glexs, rogorc fenas da am dros Cinovnikebi sargebloben amiT da iZenen Zalian did uZrav qonebas.

 rac Seexeba Semdgom ganviTarebul movlenebs... rodesac daviT baqraZe iyo Camosuli martvilSi, man ganacxada rom am miwebTan dakavSirebuli sakiTxi aris teqnikuri Secdoma, romelic mogvarebadia.

_ra igulisxma daviT baqraZem `teqnikur SecdomaSi~?

_ra masStabis teqnikur problemazea saubari es calke SegviZlia ganvixiloT kostantine esvanjias magaliTze. am adamianma 2002 wels 49-wliani ijariT, oficilurad SeiZina 10 heqtari miwis nakveTi. amis miuxedavad 2008 wels ise gauyides es miwa, rom misTvis araferi ar ukiTxavT. miuxedavad amisa igi dRemde ixdis saxelmwifos mier dakisrebul sijaro gadasaxads. aseve aRsaniSnavia, rom sajaro reestrSi mesakuTred isev kostantine esvanjiaa miTiTebuli mflobelad, magram mas ar eZleva misi kuTvnili mwis nakveTis dmuSavebis ufleba. man mimarTa sasamarTlos, magram samive instancia waago. yvelaze absorduli faqti is aris rom esvanjias 2010 wels daugvianda gadasaxadis gadaxda da 2011 wels sajarimo qviTari gamougzavnes da jarima gadaaxdevines. amiT SegviZlia davaskvnaT, rom martvilSi realurad mimdinarobs reketi xelisuflebis mxridan ra Tqma unda adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis xelmZRvaneli pirebis daxmarebiT.

garda miwis nakveTebis aq warmoiSva problema zugus saZovrebTan dakavSirebiT. e saris konkretuli teritoriis nawili ara mxolod saZovris TvalsazrisiT, aramed mas aqvs istoriuli datvirTva. kerZod, `zugu~ aris istoriuli mniSvnelobis mqone Zegli, sadac daflulia kolxuri kulturuli memkvidreobis uamravi nimuSi, romelic jer bolobde ar aris Seswavlili.. erovnul muzeumSi es teritoria moxseniebulia, rogorc `naWviS zugu~. aq adre frofesor gogaZis mier tardeboda gaTxrebi, magram usaxsrobis gamo gadaido da jer kidev ar aris dadgenili Tu ra mniSvnelobis ZeglTan gvaqvs saqme. `agri jorjiam~ ki es teritoria mZime miisakuTra, mZime teqnikiT daamuSava, gadaxna da kolxebis kulturuli memkvidreoba gaanadgura.

manmade, rodesac `agri jorjiam~ am teritoriis Semokaveba daiwyo mivediT da moviTxoveT CvenTan sasaubrod am kompaniis warmomadgeneli gamosuliyo da Cvens kiTxvebze pasuxi gaeca, magram aravin mosula CvenTan, garda gamgebel mamuka daneliasi, romelic policiis TanxlebiT movida. man gangvicxada, rom `mova mZime teqnika dasamuSaveblad da Tu Tqven winaaRmdegobas gauwevT dagapatimrebeno~. anu SeiZleba iTqvas, rom gamgebeli danelia, mis mosaxleobas, mis amomrCevlebs pirdapir daWeriT daemuqra im SemTxvevaSi Tu sakuTari uflebis da kerZo sakuTrebis dasacavad ibrZolebdnen.

_rogorc vici Tqven amis Semdeg dagakaves kidec...

_diax, rodesac `agri jorjias~ warmomadgenlebma daiwyes Semokaveba am saZovrebis, Cven Cveni uflebebis dacva gadavwyviteT. vinaidan aRniSnuli kompaniis oficialuri piri ar gamovida CvenTan Sesaxvedrad daviwyeT am Robis morRveva protestis niSnad amis mere RamiT 10-11 saaTze moxda Cveni ayvana da gadayvana policies SenobaSi. rodesac vikiTxeT Tu ratom dagvakaves? gvipasuxes, rom `agri jorjia~ gviCioda qonebis xelyofis gamo. Semdeg axsna-ganmartebebi CamogvarTves da gagvaTavisufles.

_Tqveni Semdgomi nabiji ra iqneba... ra gzebiT apirebT Tqveni uflebebis dacvisTvis brZolas?

_Cven ar vapirebT danebebas. Cven vibrZolebT bolomde, oRond kanonieri gzebiT da adre Tu gvian aRvadgenT samarTlianobas.

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